Comments on: The Evolution of Open – notes from Open Everything

By: Internet Kids Games

Internet Kids Games — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:54:18 +0000

Interesting graph. Outlines your point really well.

By: muhabbet

muhabbet — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:39:36 +0000

thank you.

By: club penguin

club penguin — Mon, 25 May 2009 05:38:06 +0000

Someone who has been in an “open” organisation for a while will have been bitten by being open and will therefore deliberately keep secret things that may have been open before. However they may also consciously publish conversations that may have previously accidentally happened in private.

By: sohbet

sohbet — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 01:10:11 +0000

thanks for everybody good luck nancy

By: Jon Stahl

Jon Stahl — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:06:31 +0000

Thanks for sharing this… elegant and insightful

By: Jon Stahl

Jon Stahl — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:06:31 +0000

Thanks for sharing this… elegant and insightful

By: david_a_eaves

david_a_eaves — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:41:05 +0000

Ian, thank you for the comment. I completely agree and hope there isn't anything in my piece to suggest otherwise. Indeed, both the line you sited and this line “Critically, I also think that those in quadrant 2 or 3 are often measuring open differently then those in quadrant 4 – who because of their boards and/or stakeholders, hold themselves to a very high bar” were written to affirm that those who have been in open based organization longer, are probably acting more “open” but hold themselves to a higher standard than those in quad 1,2 or 3. So I think we're in vigorous agreement!

By: Ian Thomas (thelem)

Ian Thomas (thelem) — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:42:35 +0000

I think the key sentance in the above is:

"Obviously definitions of “open” and “how open” one is was up to each participant"

I think someone who has recently joined an "open" organisation will have ideals about being open, and see openness in what they and their colleagues do. Someone who has been in an "open" organisation for a while will have been bitten by being open and will therefore deliberately keep secret things that may have been open before. However they may also consciously publish conversations that may have previously accidentally happened in private (say, around the water cooler). They are also more used to their peers being open, and therefore more aware of the things that they are hiding themselves.

To conclude, I don't think it is reasonable to say that someone who has been in an open organisation for a longtime is likely to be less open than someone who has just joined the same organisation unless you base that on more than just their own opinion

By: Open government at Open Everything « Deepishthoughts’s Weblog

Open government at Open Everything « Deepishthoughts’s Weblog — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:41:50 +0000

[...] was the Spectrogram. David has done a great job of explaining what we did on his blog so suffice it to say that we were asked to decide where we fit on a scale of 0 to 100 percent on [...]