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		<title>By: Gobierno abierto y Web 2.0 &#171; Javier García León</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gobierno abierto y Web 2.0 &#171; Javier García León</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] es fundamental para la continuidad de la administración pública del Canadá por el efecto de pérdida de conocimiento que se producirá al jubilarse en un corto periodo de tiempo un porcentage muy alto de [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is certainly a real challenge. The people within government with the most useful information and personal knowledge are usually the busiest, the most senior, and often the least tech-savvy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;While I was working at a certain federal department,  two people either retired or moved on, each of which had a huge body of institutional knowledge. They had been working on a particular file for several decades, taken together. They didn’t even hand over any paper files, much less put any of their knowledge into an easily accessible forum.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Admittedly, I have raised two rather separate issues. Getting people with knowledge to put in the time and effort is one thing. The question of whether to put a firewall around the whole project is another. They are linked in one way, however: the more people who have access to the information, the more value it has. While a person might not feel motivated to input data into a site used only by a geeky subset of civil servants, they might be more willing to put it onto the public internet if encouraged to do so and given good tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is certainly a real challenge. The people within government with the most useful information and personal knowledge are usually the busiest, the most senior, and often the least tech-savvy.</p>
<p>While I was working at a certain federal department,  two people either retired or moved on, each of which had a huge body of institutional knowledge. They had been working on a particular file for several decades, taken together. They didn’t even hand over any paper files, much less put any of their knowledge into an easily accessible forum.</p>
<p>Admittedly, I have raised two rather separate issues. Getting people with knowledge to put in the time and effort is one thing. The question of whether to put a firewall around the whole project is another. They are linked in one way, however: the more people who have access to the information, the more value it has. While a person might not feel motivated to input data into a site used only by a geeky subset of civil servants, they might be more willing to put it onto the public internet if encouraged to do so and given good tools.</p>
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		<title>By: David Eaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Eaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milan - thank you for the comment. I agree it will take time, but that isn&#039;t reason not to try or do it. We should at least be able to match, and really improve on, Wikipedia - which is now, just over 8 years. So maybe 5 years? That also feels like a reasonable time frame. Probably a lot shorter than the timeline around the introduction of the telephone, computer or email into the public service. And, probably right around the minimum timeframe anyone should be thinking about on the issue of renewing the public service or bringing it into the 21st century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milan &#8211; thank you for the comment. I agree it will take time, but that isn&#39;t reason not to try or do it. We should at least be able to match, and really improve on, Wikipedia &#8211; which is now, just over 8 years. So maybe 5 years? That also feels like a reasonable time frame. Probably a lot shorter than the timeline around the introduction of the telephone, computer or email into the public service. And, probably right around the minimum timeframe anyone should be thinking about on the issue of renewing the public service or bringing it into the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When it comes to sites like Wikipedia, it takes a lot of knowledge and dedication to get the community running properly. The real Wikipedia has procedures and knowledgeable people. GCPedia will take a long time to ever coming close to matching what is already there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to sites like Wikipedia, it takes a lot of knowledge and dedication to get the community running properly. The real Wikipedia has procedures and knowledgeable people. GCPedia will take a long time to ever coming close to matching what is already there.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t really see much purpose for these closed-off projects.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We would be better off it public servants just updated Wikipedia pages and interacted via Facebook. There would be occasional embarrassments, but it would lead to a lot of good information getting out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t really see much purpose for these closed-off projects.</p>
<p>We would be better off it public servants just updated Wikipedia pages and interacted via Facebook. There would be occasional embarrassments, but it would lead to a lot of good information getting out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Emergent Systems in Government: Let&#8217;s put the horse before the cart &#124; eaves.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emergent Systems in Government: Let&#8217;s put the horse before the cart &#124; eaves.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the Public Service and chairperson of the Interdepartmental Knowledge Management Forum, wrote the following comment in response to a blog post from several months ago entitled &quot;How GCPEDIA will save the public [...]</description>
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		<title>By: paul_mcdowall</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul_mcdowall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will GCPEDIA save the public service, or capture all the tacit knowledge that will walk out the door?  No, of course not!  To suggest otherwise is, frankly, naive hyperbole.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As great and as promising as GCPEDIA and other Web 2.0 tools are, tools will never save the public service.  People are the public service and only people have the capacity to save the public service, and it will take a whole lot more to improve the weak areas of the public service than a tool.  Things like leadership play a pretty important role in organizational effectiveness.  There are many good Organizational Excellence models (I have researched this area) and they all include people and leadership as two elements, but funny enough, tools aren&#039;t included.  Why?  Because it is not so much a tool issue as it is a craftsman issue.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With respect to your comment about tacit knowledge and social capital (not the same things by the way), I think it might be helpful to brush up on what tacit knowledge is, and what Knowledge Management is.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is unquestionably true that the public service continues to face a potential impact from demographic changes that are both extremely significant and yet unquantified.  It is also unquestionably true that most public service organizations haven&#039;t truly understood or addressed these potential impacts, to say nothing of the potential of improving their effectiness right NOW from better Knowledge Management (productivity, innovation, etc).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These issues need to be addressed by public service leaders in an intelligent and thoughtful manner.  Tools can and certainly should help but only when wielded by craftsmen and women.   For too long vendors have made grandiose and unrealizable promises about their &#039;solutions&#039;.   I thought we had learned our lessons from all that experience.  &lt;br&gt; Let&#039;s not get the cart before the horse, shall we? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Paul McDowall&lt;br&gt;Knowledge Management Advisor  &lt;br&gt;and chairperson of the Interdepartmental Knowledge Management Forum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will GCPEDIA save the public service, or capture all the tacit knowledge that will walk out the door?  No, of course not!  To suggest otherwise is, frankly, naive hyperbole.  </p>
<p>As great and as promising as GCPEDIA and other Web 2.0 tools are, tools will never save the public service.  People are the public service and only people have the capacity to save the public service, and it will take a whole lot more to improve the weak areas of the public service than a tool.  Things like leadership play a pretty important role in organizational effectiveness.  There are many good Organizational Excellence models (I have researched this area) and they all include people and leadership as two elements, but funny enough, tools aren&#39;t included.  Why?  Because it is not so much a tool issue as it is a craftsman issue.  </p>
<p>With respect to your comment about tacit knowledge and social capital (not the same things by the way), I think it might be helpful to brush up on what tacit knowledge is, and what Knowledge Management is.   </p>
<p>It is unquestionably true that the public service continues to face a potential impact from demographic changes that are both extremely significant and yet unquantified.  It is also unquestionably true that most public service organizations haven&#39;t truly understood or addressed these potential impacts, to say nothing of the potential of improving their effectiness right NOW from better Knowledge Management (productivity, innovation, etc).  </p>
<p>These issues need to be addressed by public service leaders in an intelligent and thoughtful manner.  Tools can and certainly should help but only when wielded by craftsmen and women.   For too long vendors have made grandiose and unrealizable promises about their &#39;solutions&#39;.   I thought we had learned our lessons from all that experience.  <br /> Let&#39;s not get the cart before the horse, shall we? </p>
<p>Paul McDowall<br />Knowledge Management Advisor  <br />and chairperson of the Interdepartmental Knowledge Management Forum</p>
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		<title>By: paul_mcdowall</title>
		<link>http://eaves.ca/2009/03/12/how-gcpedia-will-save-the-public-service/comment-page-1/#comment-419796</link>
		<dc:creator>paul_mcdowall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will GCPEDIA save the public service, or capture all the tacit knowledge that will walk out the door?  No, of course not!  To suggest otherwise is, frankly, naive hyperbole.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As great and as promising as GCPEDIA and other Web 2.0 tools are, tools will never save the public service.  People are the public service and only people have the capacity to save the public service, and it will take a whole lot more to improve the weak areas of the public service than a tool.  Things like leadership play a pretty important role in organizational effectiveness.  There are many good Organizational Excellence models (I have researched this area) and they all include people and leadership as two elements, but funny enough, tools aren&#039;t included.  Why?  Because it is not so much a tool issue as it is a craftsman issue.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With respect to your comment about tacit knowledge and social capital (not the same things by the way), I think you may be beneficial to brush up on what tacit knowledge is, and what Knowledge Management is.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is unquestionably true that the public service continues to face a potential impact from demographic changes that are both extremely significant and yet unquantified.  It is also unquestionably true that most public service organizations haven&#039;t truly understood or addressed these potential impacts, to say nothing of the potential of improving their effectiness right NOW from better Knowledge Management (productivity, innovation, etc).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These issues need to be addressed by public service leaders in an intelligent and thoughtful manner.  Tools can and certainly should help but only when wielded by craftsmen and women.   For too long vendors have made grandiose and unrealizable promises about their &#039;solutions&#039;.   I thought we had learned our lessons from all that experience.  &lt;br&gt; Let&#039;s not get the cart before the horse, shall we? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Paul McDowall&lt;br&gt;Knowledge Management Advisor  &lt;br&gt;and chairperson of the Interdepartmental Knowledge Management Forum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will GCPEDIA save the public service, or capture all the tacit knowledge that will walk out the door?  No, of course not!  To suggest otherwise is, frankly, naive hyperbole.  </p>
<p>As great and as promising as GCPEDIA and other Web 2.0 tools are, tools will never save the public service.  People are the public service and only people have the capacity to save the public service, and it will take a whole lot more to improve the weak areas of the public service than a tool.  Things like leadership play a pretty important role in organizational effectiveness.  There are many good Organizational Excellence models (I have researched this area) and they all include people and leadership as two elements, but funny enough, tools aren&#39;t included.  Why?  Because it is not so much a tool issue as it is a craftsman issue.  </p>
<p>With respect to your comment about tacit knowledge and social capital (not the same things by the way), I think you may be beneficial to brush up on what tacit knowledge is, and what Knowledge Management is.   </p>
<p>It is unquestionably true that the public service continues to face a potential impact from demographic changes that are both extremely significant and yet unquantified.  It is also unquestionably true that most public service organizations haven&#39;t truly understood or addressed these potential impacts, to say nothing of the potential of improving their effectiness right NOW from better Knowledge Management (productivity, innovation, etc).  </p>
<p>These issues need to be addressed by public service leaders in an intelligent and thoughtful manner.  Tools can and certainly should help but only when wielded by craftsmen and women.   For too long vendors have made grandiose and unrealizable promises about their &#39;solutions&#39;.   I thought we had learned our lessons from all that experience.  <br /> Let&#39;s not get the cart before the horse, shall we? </p>
<p>Paul McDowall<br />Knowledge Management Advisor  <br />and chairperson of the Interdepartmental Knowledge Management Forum</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Cowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will GCpedia save the public service or at least perserve some of it?  I have to agree with your arguement.  The GCPedia is a a foundation on which to capture and manage knowledge, if only because it allows public servants to post their information and make connections to other sources in a widely accessible environment and over time.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But it is only a foundation element to what has to be a broader approach that looks at blogs and video, twitter and all those other tools that we will use to capture the narrative of a public servant&#039;s worklife.   I believe also that this broader approach means getting out of departments stovepipes and sharing our own wiki information with the broader world through gcpedia.   Scale is everything with Wikis so is community writ large.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Finally,  sorry to hear that youre leaving Chelsea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will GCpedia save the public service or at least perserve some of it?  I have to agree with your arguement.  The GCPedia is a a foundation on which to capture and manage knowledge, if only because it allows public servants to post their information and make connections to other sources in a widely accessible environment and over time.  </p>
<p>But it is only a foundation element to what has to be a broader approach that looks at blogs and video, twitter and all those other tools that we will use to capture the narrative of a public servant&#39;s worklife.   I believe also that this broader approach means getting out of departments stovepipes and sharing our own wiki information with the broader world through gcpedia.   Scale is everything with Wikis so is community writ large.  </p>
<p>Finally,  sorry to hear that youre leaving Chelsea</p>
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		<title>By: Stephane Dubord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephane Dubord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the most value-added input we can get from the &quot;old guard&quot; before they leave is to know how they do things, so we don&#039;t lose what they&#039;ve come to understand about the process.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, we&#039;ll do things differently. But that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean we&#039;ll do it BETTER, unless we can fully understand why the old way worked.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The key here is the intricate, &quot;off the books&quot; type of info. Who to contact to get the extra info, who you need to check with to vet the information, who you need to talk to for tips on what priorities are gaining ground, etc. As transparent and accessible as we aim government to become, the truth of the matter is that networking is still an invaluable ingredient in getting things done today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other point is that &quot;we&quot; might want to scrap the old way and reinvent the entire process, but the transition needs to be done without jeopardizing our raison-d&#039;être of delivering services to Canadians.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can&#039;t scrap the EI system and start from scratch, because people depend on those cheques coming in on a regular basis to live. We can&#039;t temporarily suspend food inspections while we overhaul our processes, because people depend on food safety.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s about implementing the change gradually. You don&#039;t blow up a hospital to clear the way to build a more modern version. Too many people depend on the services. Same goes here, no matter how bureaucratic it might be. People depend on the outputs of your division, branch, department, etc. If they don&#039;t, then the process isn&#039;t what should be questioned, but the purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the most value-added input we can get from the &#8220;old guard&#8221; before they leave is to know how they do things, so we don&#39;t lose what they&#39;ve come to understand about the process.</p>
<p>Yes, we&#39;ll do things differently. But that doesn&#39;t necessarily mean we&#39;ll do it BETTER, unless we can fully understand why the old way worked.</p>
<p>The key here is the intricate, &#8220;off the books&#8221; type of info. Who to contact to get the extra info, who you need to check with to vet the information, who you need to talk to for tips on what priorities are gaining ground, etc. As transparent and accessible as we aim government to become, the truth of the matter is that networking is still an invaluable ingredient in getting things done today.</p>
<p>The other point is that &#8220;we&#8221; might want to scrap the old way and reinvent the entire process, but the transition needs to be done without jeopardizing our raison-d&#39;être of delivering services to Canadians.</p>
<p>We can&#39;t scrap the EI system and start from scratch, because people depend on those cheques coming in on a regular basis to live. We can&#39;t temporarily suspend food inspections while we overhaul our processes, because people depend on food safety.</p>
<p>It&#39;s about implementing the change gradually. You don&#39;t blow up a hospital to clear the way to build a more modern version. Too many people depend on the services. Same goes here, no matter how bureaucratic it might be. People depend on the outputs of your division, branch, department, etc. If they don&#39;t, then the process isn&#39;t what should be questioned, but the purpose.</p>
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