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		<title>By: sophie</title>
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		<dc:creator>sophie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey im a year 12 student studying the topic of declining newspapers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would be great if you could do my survey which will really help me gather primary research on this particular topic &lt;br&gt;thank you &lt;br&gt;please click &gt;&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Tu4Sy7cpmA_2budOPAJqD1gQ_3d_3d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Tu4Sy7cpm...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I need as many people as i can reach!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey im a year 12 student studying the topic of declining newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: who is going to cover city hall? we will&#8230; &#124; eaves.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>who is going to cover city hall? we will&#8230; &#124; eaves.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] follow up on the future of democracy and the media. In the comments one reader - Karen - commented: So....which of you brilliant Gen Y bloggers is going to sit at local park board meetings to find [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NRF_Vancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>NRF_Vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Sirota writing this week in Salon says, in part:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;While technological and economic forces certainly battered newspapers, journalism also delivered a one-two punch to its own jaw.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, financially strapped newspapers undermined their comparative advantage by replacing audience-attracting local exclusives with cheaper national content. Then, the providers of that national content diverted resources from tough-to-report investigative journalism that builds loyal readership and into paparazzi-like birdcage liner that unconvincingly portrays politicians, CEOs and their minions as celebrities.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The most preventable tragedy was the deterioration of quality. Downsized local publications were all but forced to rely on more national content, but that content didn&#039;t have to become so vapid.&quot;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------&lt;br&gt;Sirota is speaking of the USA, with an eye particularly on Washington DC.  He is a progressive voice who was a steady and effective critic of the Republican administration.  I agree that newspapers have been damaged severely by decline of quality local content. Radio broadcasting is the same.  Spreading common content across a chain is understandably desirable for the operators but does not serve the consumer well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Sirota writing this week in Salon says, in part:</p>
<p>&#8220;While technological and economic forces certainly battered newspapers, journalism also delivered a one-two punch to its own jaw.</p>
<p>First, financially strapped newspapers undermined their comparative advantage by replacing audience-attracting local exclusives with cheaper national content. Then, the providers of that national content diverted resources from tough-to-report investigative journalism that builds loyal readership and into paparazzi-like birdcage liner that unconvincingly portrays politicians, CEOs and their minions as celebrities.</p>
<p>The most preventable tragedy was the deterioration of quality. Downsized local publications were all but forced to rely on more national content, but that content didn&#39;t have to become so vapid.&#8221;<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />Sirota is speaking of the USA, with an eye particularly on Washington DC.  He is a progressive voice who was a steady and effective critic of the Republican administration.  I agree that newspapers have been damaged severely by decline of quality local content. Radio broadcasting is the same.  Spreading common content across a chain is understandably desirable for the operators but does not serve the consumer well.</p>
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		<title>By: NRF_Vancouver</title>
		<link>http://eaves.ca/2009/03/26/newspapers%e2%80%99-decline-is-a-sign-of-democracy-not-a-symptom-of-its-death/comment-page-1/#comment-418772</link>
		<dc:creator>NRF_Vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quality may be hard to find in traditional media or in web content but each of us defines quality in our own quite personal way.  In these days of corporate concentration, there are fewer and fewer hard copy options as newspapers from one city to another look ever more like clones.  Finding quality on the Internets requires diligence and time but can be done.   I am thankful to have so many sources available. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, the owners of traditional media are working to reduce choice.  Three times this week, my browser reported that the content I wished to view was not available in Canada.  By example, someone has decided that I cannot watch clips from Jon Stewart&#039;s Daily Show from Comedy Central&#039;s website.  Instead, I must look for the material at Canada&#039;s The Comedy Network.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Will Canwest Global or Bell Media convince authorities that I shouldn&#039;t be reading articles from the NY Times, the WA Post or The Guardian online but should only read them in Canadian papers, if they choose to publish those articles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quality may be hard to find in traditional media or in web content but each of us defines quality in our own quite personal way.  In these days of corporate concentration, there are fewer and fewer hard copy options as newspapers from one city to another look ever more like clones.  Finding quality on the Internets requires diligence and time but can be done.   I am thankful to have so many sources available. </p>
<p>However, the owners of traditional media are working to reduce choice.  Three times this week, my browser reported that the content I wished to view was not available in Canada.  By example, someone has decided that I cannot watch clips from Jon Stewart&#39;s Daily Show from Comedy Central&#39;s website.  Instead, I must look for the material at Canada&#39;s The Comedy Network.</p>
<p>Will Canwest Global or Bell Media convince authorities that I shouldn&#39;t be reading articles from the NY Times, the WA Post or The Guardian online but should only read them in Canadian papers, if they choose to publish those articles?</p>
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		<title>By: Linktipps zum Wochenstart (3) &#171; Medial &#38; Digital</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linktipps zum Wochenstart (3) &#171; Medial &#38; Digital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: david_a_eaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>david_a_eaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - thank you for the comment. My understanding is that the constitution doesn&#039;t protect the &quot;practice of journalism&quot; it protects the right of &quot;the press&quot; - by which was meant to be the right for people to write, publish and print, free speech. Journalists have earned some protections over the centuries, but these are being tested (who do we identify as journalists today?). Moreover, I don&#039;t think America&#039;s founding fathers had a notion that Fox News, CNN, or the New York Times was necessary for democracy - what was necessary was that a population had a way to speak to one another and exchange views, independently of the state. Such a system will probably emerge without newspapers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Perhaps the news industry&#039;s collapse is self-inflicted, but I suspect some strong structural forces are at play. Moreover, I&#039;m sure some big players will survive (and possible evolve beyond recognition).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most importantly, no one is arguing that there is going to be a glowing democratic utopia - just that the future is going to look different, and that democracy isn&#039;t going to collapse if newspapers disappear. That really is the specific offensive claim we were targeting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; thank you for the comment. My understanding is that the constitution doesn&#39;t protect the &#8220;practice of journalism&#8221; it protects the right of &#8220;the press&#8221; &#8211; by which was meant to be the right for people to write, publish and print, free speech. Journalists have earned some protections over the centuries, but these are being tested (who do we identify as journalists today?). Moreover, I don&#39;t think America&#39;s founding fathers had a notion that Fox News, CNN, or the New York Times was necessary for democracy &#8211; what was necessary was that a population had a way to speak to one another and exchange views, independently of the state. Such a system will probably emerge without newspapers.</p>
<p>Perhaps the news industry&#39;s collapse is self-inflicted, but I suspect some strong structural forces are at play. Moreover, I&#39;m sure some big players will survive (and possible evolve beyond recognition).</p>
<p>Most importantly, no one is arguing that there is going to be a glowing democratic utopia &#8211; just that the future is going to look different, and that democracy isn&#39;t going to collapse if newspapers disappear. That really is the specific offensive claim we were targeting.</p>
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		<title>By: John McIntyre</title>
		<link>http://eaves.ca/2009/03/26/newspapers%e2%80%99-decline-is-a-sign-of-democracy-not-a-symptom-of-its-death/comment-page-1/#comment-418763</link>
		<dc:creator>John McIntyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to quibble, but the point is that the Constitution says that everyone enjoys freedom of speech, and then adds a specific provision to include journalism. If a universal right of freedom of speech sufficed to include &quot;newspapers, bloggers, public speakers,&quot; it would not have been necessary to add &quot;or of the press.&quot; The authors of the First Amendment singled out two institutions, the church and the press, for specific protection to preserve our freedoms. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As to your broader argument, I can speak, as a working newspaper journalist for nearly 30 years, of endless brain-dead corporate decisions and the publication of appallingly stupid and shoddy prose. The collapse of the newspaper industry has a pronouncedly self-inflicted element. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That apart, I&#039;m afraid that I&#039;m dubious about your glowing hopes for the new democratic age. As a copy editor, I have been fighting a rear-guard action these 30 years to ensure that the newspapers for which I worked published rpose that was factually accurate and clear. What newspapers offer is information that someone has made an attempt to verify. The uncertainty of verification is what leaves me suspicious of many blogs, Internet site, Wikipedia entries, and other manifestations of the New Order. &quot;Messy like democracy&quot; glosses over this point. To make informed decisions, people need reliable information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t want to quibble, but the point is that the Constitution says that everyone enjoys freedom of speech, and then adds a specific provision to include journalism. If a universal right of freedom of speech sufficed to include &#8220;newspapers, bloggers, public speakers,&#8221; it would not have been necessary to add &#8220;or of the press.&#8221; The authors of the First Amendment singled out two institutions, the church and the press, for specific protection to preserve our freedoms. </p>
<p>As to your broader argument, I can speak, as a working newspaper journalist for nearly 30 years, of endless brain-dead corporate decisions and the publication of appallingly stupid and shoddy prose. The collapse of the newspaper industry has a pronouncedly self-inflicted element. </p>
<p>That apart, I&#39;m afraid that I&#39;m dubious about your glowing hopes for the new democratic age. As a copy editor, I have been fighting a rear-guard action these 30 years to ensure that the newspapers for which I worked published rpose that was factually accurate and clear. What newspapers offer is information that someone has made an attempt to verify. The uncertainty of verification is what leaves me suspicious of many blogs, Internet site, Wikipedia entries, and other manifestations of the New Order. &#8220;Messy like democracy&#8221; glosses over this point. To make informed decisions, people need reliable information.</p>
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		<title>By: david_a_eaves</title>
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		<dc:creator>david_a_eaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - thank you for the comment. Actually the statement is quite specific. We all - newspapers, bloggers, public speakers - enjoy the freedom of speech. This is not a right specific to newspapers. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But this is besides the point. Your comment doesn&#039;t engage the thrust of our argument - that the constitution does not state that the news media (or even journalism for that matter) is necessary for democracy. It says that freedom of speech is. Yes, newspapers enjoy that freedom - like the rest of us - but that doesn&#039;t mean they are necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; thank you for the comment. Actually the statement is quite specific. We all &#8211; newspapers, bloggers, public speakers &#8211; enjoy the freedom of speech. This is not a right specific to newspapers. </p>
<p>But this is besides the point. Your comment doesn&#39;t engage the thrust of our argument &#8211; that the constitution does not state that the news media (or even journalism for that matter) is necessary for democracy. It says that freedom of speech is. Yes, newspapers enjoy that freedom &#8211; like the rest of us &#8211; but that doesn&#39;t mean they are necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: John McIntyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>John McIntyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the protection extends to other media. I was simply pointing out that, despite Mr. Eaves&#039; sweeping statement, newspapers do in fact have a specific constitutional protection. If he wants his argument to be heeded, he might take greater care not to make statements so easily challenged on factual grounds, particularly after sneering at other people&#039;s hyperbole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the protection extends to other media. I was simply pointing out that, despite Mr. Eaves&#39; sweeping statement, newspapers do in fact have a specific constitutional protection. If he wants his argument to be heeded, he might take greater care not to make statements so easily challenged on factual grounds, particularly after sneering at other people&#39;s hyperbole.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The press&quot; does not have to mean the traditional newspaper. It can apply to books. It can apply to the Internet.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Founding Fathers may only have had Gutenberg&#039;s press to refer to but they weren&#039;t stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The press&#8221; does not have to mean the traditional newspaper. It can apply to books. It can apply to the Internet.</p>
<p>The Founding Fathers may only have had Gutenberg&#39;s press to refer to but they weren&#39;t stupid.</p>
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