Hargrove vs. Layton

According to National Newswatch Buzz Hargrove is ruminating running as a Liberal against Jack Layton.

It is no secret that Hargrove and Layton dislike each other. Indeed, the NDP even revoked Hargrove’s membership during the last electoin after he suggested NDP voters vote strategically (e.g. for Liberals) in some ridings to prevent the Conservatives from gaining power.

The bigger question is why the Liberals would want to be the vehicle for this feud. Taking out Layton will not end the NDP. Indeed, it’s unclear why the Liberals would want to take out Layton at all. He’s has been pretty good for the Liberals… the NDP remains more or less stuck in the polls. Why would the Liberals mess with a good thing?

The downside however, is not insignificant. Taking a run at Layton could galvanize NDP voters as well as give him greater prominance in the election. Layton usually has to fight for media attention. By offering up a high profile challenger the Liberals will draw attention to him that he could never earn on his own. Worse still, a high profile match up would enable Layton to claim the Liberals perceive him as a threat – lending him an air of credibility and respect that again, he has been unable to earn on his own.

All in all, it’s obvious what Hargrove gets out of it, the Liberals… less so.

But then, this is all rumour and speculation…

8 thoughts on “Hargrove vs. Layton

  1. Ron

    You are right – but you didn’t go far enough. What if Hargrove won? That would be a disaster – the man is obviously not a team player, not willing to listen to anyone by himself and certainly could not be counted on to keep quiet and work within the bounds of caucus secrecy and loyalty. He would be there for one reason, advance his own agenda; if that didn’t work, I can only imagine the problems he would cause. This would be on the same scale as having David Orchard in caucus — neither strike me as being interested in advancing the Party agenda so much as their own.

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  2. Ron

    You are right – but you didn’t go far enough. What if Hargrove won? That would be a disaster – the man is obviously not a team player, not willing to listen to anyone by himself and certainly could not be counted on to keep quiet and work within the bounds of caucus secrecy and loyalty. He would be there for one reason, advance his own agenda; if that didn’t work, I can only imagine the problems he would cause. This would be on the same scale as having David Orchard in caucus — neither strike me as being interested in advancing the Party agenda so much as their own.

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  3. James Curran

    Caucus secrecy and loyalty? When did that start again. I missed the memo.

    As for Orchard, he’s our only hope of wining more seats in the west as he pulls his PC support to the Liberal Team. Anyone that commands a mailing list of close to 100,000 supporters can play on my team any time.

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  4. HLH

    The following are two bloggers speculating about the takeover of the Liberal party…This insidious infiltration is astonishing…

    Blog #1
    The PowerCorp, Desmairais, Maurice Strong elite cabal behind Bob Rae are making their moves to anoint their new socialist saviour./puppet man.
    The final step will be to pay off Dion’s $800,000 leadership debt before the June deadline I’m sure they can find 800 or so “individuals” to all contribute their $1,000 in keeping with the election rules (wink, wink).
    Then a nice plausible story (aided by the pliant panting Liberal media) – maybe about poor Dion’s failing health or his wife’s and VOILA – the cabal will be back in the power seat and all set to begin picking our pockets again, and rewarding their friends and making nice yummy deals with communist China, just like before they were so rudely interrupted by those pesky Conservatives..

    Blog #2
    What will be left of the Liberal Party when all the Socialists infiltrate will be the question, Bob Rae, David Miller, Buzzy Hargrove.

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  5. James Curran

    Caucus secrecy and loyalty? When did that start again. I missed the memo.As for Orchard, he’s our only hope of wining more seats in the west as he pulls his PC support to the Liberal Team. Anyone that commands a mailing list of close to 100,000 supporters can play on my team any time.

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  6. HLH

    The following are two bloggers speculating about the takeover of the Liberal party…This insidious infiltration is astonishing… Blog #1The PowerCorp, Desmairais, Maurice Strong elite cabal behind Bob Rae are making their moves to anoint their new socialist saviour./puppet man. The final step will be to pay off Dion’s $800,000 leadership debt before the June deadline I’m sure they can find 800 or so “individuals” to all contribute their $1,000 in keeping with the election rules (wink, wink). Then a nice plausible story (aided by the pliant panting Liberal media) – maybe about poor Dion’s failing health or his wife’s and VOILA – the cabal will be back in the power seat and all set to begin picking our pockets again, and rewarding their friends and making nice yummy deals with communist China, just like before they were so rudely interrupted by those pesky Conservatives.. Blog #2What will be left of the Liberal Party when all the Socialists infiltrate will be the question, Bob Rae, David Miller, Buzzy Hargrove.

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  7. What the?

    The best thing that could happen to the Liberal party is for “the socialists” to take it over while ousting the Conservatives moles that occupy its lookout.

    The best thing for Canada would be for the Liberal party to rule after having purged its conservative fixers.

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  8. What the?

    The best thing that could happen to the Liberal party is for “the socialists” to take it over while ousting the Conservatives moles that occupy its lookout.The best thing for Canada would be for the Liberal party to rule after having purged its conservative fixers.

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